Its fine haha I have my moments :P I cant check at the moment as I just covered the car back up as a "historic blizzard" came on friday.

 

Where's the pics? don't keep us in the dark Love old Ford iron here..

18yrs old and a 4 barrel (?) never equal out to better fuel economy!

39 years ago I was driving the car I have now but at 18,, and I still enjoy pump'n the throttle on the ol quadrajet

Adding an RV cam would help wake up that 302 with a moderate increase in fuel drop from a new 4V. Nothing too big though like Grindman mentioned otherwise it may work against your eco. goal and make for more of an ozone hole generator.. More so without a cam to help with the flow..

Something to consider,, given the cost of the manifold, carb, and assorted changover pieces/gaskets etc, you could buy a good amount of gas with that money using the stock hardware. Not to be negative at all, I get the 'need' to slow the needle drop at todays prices!, and I'm all about increasing adrenaline, but just part of the equation when doing any power enhancements is the cost to get there.. Usually when you try and build power, even just a 4V, the trade is a tad more punch, but generally you end up break'n even, or a tad less if you like to use it or play If you drive it like there's an egg under the pedal, you may see some gains. Thats a heavy weight with only a 302 to push it around, a hard job..

(Lets some some images

 

The reason I asked for the gear ratio was to find out if he could go a higher ratio than the one that's in it and that will give a little more fuel econ. the less rpm's the motor has to turn to reach the speed limit the better the fuel econ. but he really should consider going with a 351w then he not only increases the power but he gets decent fuel econ. in the process. Nothing beats more cubic inches than that. I have a 71 Ford F100 with a 302 in it and it don't do what I what I need it to do 'cause there's not enough horsepower to give me what I want or need. grant ed it pulls itself just fine but give it a load and the power just ain't there. 300 inline six's have more torque that the 302 ever did. that one's for you Hayapower

 

It was more model/year dependant on 'which' was the torque leader. The 302 needed to produce more HP (per cubic inch) for sure to match, meet, or exceed the 4.9.. FI tipped the scale in favor of the 302 in later years.. Then,, there's always the early Boss 302 that left the 4.9 way behind,, 290/290

Short list of samples..


1980 4.9 (300 ci) 117 hp @ 3000 rpm 243 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1980 5.0 (302 ci) 135 hp @ 3400 rpm 243 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm
1981 4.9 (300 ci) 122 hp @ 3000 rpm 255 ft/lb @ 1400 rpm
1981 5.0 (302 ci) 135 hp @ 3400 rpm 243 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm
1982 4.9 (300 ci) 123 hp @ 3000 rpm 257 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1982 5.0 (302 ci) 132 hp @ 3400 rpm 232 ft/lb @ 1800 rpm
1983 4.9 (300 ci) 120 hp @ 3200 rpm 251 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1983 5.0 (302 ci) 139 hp @ 3400 rpm 250 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm
1984 4.9 (300 ci) 120 hp @ 3200 rpm 251 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1984 5.0 (302 ci) 139 hp @ 3400 rpm 250 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm
1985 4.9 (300 ci) 120 hp @ 3200 rpm 251 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1985 5.0 (302 ci) 139 hp @ 3400 rpm 250 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm

1986 4.9 (300 ci) 120 hp @ 3200 rpm 251 ft/lb @ 1600 rpm
1986 5.0 (302 ci) 139 hp @ 3400 rpm 250 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm
1987 4.9 (300 ci) 150 hp @ 3400 rpm 260 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm MPFI
1987 5.0 (302 ci) 185 hp @ 3800 rpm 270 ft/lb @ 2400 rpm MPFI
1988 4.9 (300 ci) 150 hp @ 3400 rpm 260 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm MPFI
1988 5.0 (302 ci) 185 hp @ 3800 rpm 270 ft/lb @ 2400 rpm MPFI
1989 4.9 (300 ci) 150 hp @ 3400 rpm 260 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm MPFI
1989 5.0 (302 ci) 185 hp @ 3800 rpm 270 ft/lb @ 2400 rpm MPFI
1990 4.9 (300 ci) 150 hp @ 3400 rpm 260 ft/lb @ 2000 rpm MPFI
Same output specs until 95...

 

So what did you end up doing?

I would say your over spending on this project
like the man said you can buy a lot of gas
multi carb setups are not great for the street unless you
plan on racing from stop light to stop light or explaining to the cops
why you can't go slower.
Most 4bbl have vacuum secondaries, most multi carb a mechanicl
linkage, then tuning the setup, if the secondaries come in to
soon, you will have a flat spot...
the autolite or motorcraft 4100 series is a great carb, over looked
because its a Ford part...
If you looking for better fuel economy, you want lower numbers
in the rear end, not higher... why do you think drag races have
4.11 and up 5.xx
302 is not a street race motor, needs higher rpm to make torque
which is what makes the car move off the line.
I'd switch out the Distributor to a Ford electronic, "dizzy"
and what ever box you might want to use to fire it, I'd use the
Ford duraspark, try to get one with the red block that is a Ford
part, at the parts store get one for a Cal car..
get yourself a TFI coil, Ford, can even find them in the wreaking yard
for a few bucks along with that Dist...
Then I'd open the plugs to around 40k this will the the spark
a great distance to jump, and increase the fast burn of the fuel mix.
Dont run out and buy a "hotter" plug, most people don't understand
what that means... read first....
go with a set of 8mm wires...
then set the timing... start with factory for the new 4bb setup
and see if 4 to 6 extra degrees works for you, also you want
max advance about 2/3 before max rpm is reached...
I know others have different ideas, but from not only being in the
business for a long time but also from doing a lot of reading.
BTW on a carb size 302 not over a 600 cfm, a stock motor is not
going to breath that well, and its a waste of gas,
Well what every you finally did, hope your enjoying it..
best

 

edelbrock makes a nice spread bore 460 cfm 4 bbl carb. that will give great performance for a non-hi performance built 302… the small primaries will give great fuel mileage with larger secondaries for when you need the extra power…
be sure to have the carb flow benched and jetted for the cam/intake/compression you are using… you can use it straight from the box and setting the float level.. but for best performance having it set up will make a long term difference…
the rear end ratio will make the largest difference in mileage and or power. a low numerical number tall rear end gears will give you mileage. big gears/big gear ratio numbers will give you power at the cost of milage and tire wear… (you are 18 and most likely have a lead lined boot)….

 

oh my god! 2 4's is the way to go! got them on my 427 fe. they look super and sound damned sexey. and man they pull hard. who needs mpg when you got 2 4's? just make sure they are hollys. after 50 years of drag racing, i have tried them all. you can't beat a holly carb.

 

twin 4bbls would be way to much for a street-able 302….
if he had a blower a 750 cfm 4 bbl would be a good choice.
otherwise putting to large of a carb on a stock or near stock engine, is just asking for issues…

a small 4bbl on a dual plane manifold, light springs in the distributer and plugs gapped a bit wider, with electronic ignition, will help it breath and run.

 

When I see "I'm 18" coupled with "196- Ford V8" I am reminded of myself and blush. Good luck kid, I hope you have a steady job and know a good mechanic.

I'm now 23, and my first project's thread was just necroe'd by yours truly. It's still going to be completed, no matter what. If it takes you 4 years it takes you 4 years.

Hopefully it won't take you 4 years.

NOW- what I have learned from watching other people finish and relentless, real research including shop classes:

The reason you want to go with a single carb setup whenever you can is simplicity. Trying to tune multiple carbs is a pain, though of course very rewarding. It depends on how much you like or dislike working on the car, but at your current knowledge level don't go there. Also you would kill yourself. I would have given such power.

And you'll **** everyone off. although that can be

 

Sorry everyone I completely forgot I had posted this thread so long ago! Here's whats been going on. When I first posted this thread I was working at a grocery store. After gas for my 2010 civic and other misc stuff every week I was down to 20-40$ if I was lucky. Now working in TLE at walmart im looking at about 500-600$ extra every two weeks when hours are doing well! Back in april (in between jobs) I was a dumbass and sold the 1969 Ford to buy a 3d printer. WAIT dont stop reading yet, theres a happy ending! I started work on two pontiac fiero's (Dumb idea).
Less than two weeks ago I left my girlfriends house. At the end of her road I had a choice to go left or right. Left for back roads Right for the quicker high way route. Im not sure why but I couldnt decide (at 11 at night) and said "F*** it, left." I went left through the town of raymond and on the way passed the house of the man I sold my lovely car to. The lying bastard had told me he was going to keep it for his wife to use as a daily driver, and within a week had sold it off.

Anyway, I drove by and glanced at his house and immediately slammed on the brakes. There it was sitting in his driveway again. I stopped by the next day and long story short after a few trips to the bank I got a loan and bought it back from him the very next day! I immediately sold one of the fieros and im currently selling the other on craigslist.
So the Galaxie is mine again the exact same one! My love has returned!
Anyway...

my focus has shifted. The 302 in that car needs A LOT of work. So heres what I was planning. I was going to buy this:
Buy Spartan/ATK Engines Spartan Remanufactured Ford Engine DF10 at Advance Auto Parts

All this engine really needs to be fully assembled is misc parts like valve covers, timing chain cover, intake manifold, carburetor, exhaust system distributor and other bits and pieces correct? Its a 351 like suggested as well! Opinions and suggestions welcome guys! Ill post some pictures up of it as well!