1988 f150 Side Tank Pump Filter
#11
Yes, hanky is right (as always) in that the little valve needs to be there, and No, Ford never ever serviced that valve as a seperate part.
Vintage is the best bet by far. And beware; there is another newer style of that valve used on newer pumps that uses a shorter, flatter plastic fitting that does the same thing.
Vintage is the best bet by far. And beware; there is another newer style of that valve used on newer pumps that uses a shorter, flatter plastic fitting that does the same thing.
#13
Hank... I contacted Vintage Parts and explained my problem in a manner that left no chance of a lack of communication scenario via email. I received a reply from a person by the name of Dylan who said that he wasn't sure that he stocked that check valve or something to that nature. I sent back a email to Dylan, giving exact measurments of the valve along with a small color graphic of it within the email.
I haven't heard anything back from that email but usually no reply means the item is not available. I've visited other forums whereas I've contacted others in the same boat as I am... five or six other fellows. They all reached a point where they simply put it all back together without the check valve and all appears to be well. They stated that the check valve of the internal "return" line pipe (to them) appears to be a safety shut off valve to prevent a siphoning action should a fuel line break lower than the tank fuel level, or a gas leak due to a accident.
At any rate, I have to try something so tomorrow I start putting this thing together. I"ll let you know what happens. Thank you.
I haven't heard anything back from that email but usually no reply means the item is not available. I've visited other forums whereas I've contacted others in the same boat as I am... five or six other fellows. They all reached a point where they simply put it all back together without the check valve and all appears to be well. They stated that the check valve of the internal "return" line pipe (to them) appears to be a safety shut off valve to prevent a siphoning action should a fuel line break lower than the tank fuel level, or a gas leak due to a accident.
At any rate, I have to try something so tomorrow I start putting this thing together. I"ll let you know what happens. Thank you.
#14
Greasemark & Use Common Sense...... Sorry, I didn't notice there being a page two until I typed my last reply to Hank.
Thank you both for your advisory replies, I do appreciate it.
*Greasemark.... "The newer style of that valve used on newer pumps that uses a shorter, flatter plastic fitting that does the same thing" which you spoke of..... would you know of the part number and where I could find it?
*Use Common Sense.... I must admit that I have not thought of a Tractor Supply nor a Pet Store, both of which I will look into tomorrow.
Thank you both. I'll hold off assembling this thing until I check out those two places. Of course, if I have no luck in locating one, I have no choice but to assemble the tank without the valve. Thanks again.
Thank you both for your advisory replies, I do appreciate it.
*Greasemark.... "The newer style of that valve used on newer pumps that uses a shorter, flatter plastic fitting that does the same thing" which you spoke of..... would you know of the part number and where I could find it?
*Use Common Sense.... I must admit that I have not thought of a Tractor Supply nor a Pet Store, both of which I will look into tomorrow.
Thank you both. I'll hold off assembling this thing until I check out those two places. Of course, if I have no luck in locating one, I have no choice but to assemble the tank without the valve. Thanks again.
#15
Well, here's the latest update. All of the duckbill valves I've been able to come across are either too large or too small. However.....
JC Whitney phoned me and I've been in just about weekly phone contact with them ever since. They said that they were in contact with the manufactuer and were sending me another brand new Fuel Pump Hanger assembly, complete with a fuel filter and the check valve, and for me to send the first one back via regular return channels.
Okay, the new one arrived, packed much better, and it did have the fuel filter attached BUT... "No Check Valve". You would think that if the check valve is no longer needed, someone in authority would mention that fact to me to ease my mind but no matter. I shipped back the first unit as instructed. This second new one I am going to install in the new tank, install the tank in my truck, put 10 gallons in it, then drive around to see what happens.
My luck... as soon as I switch from the regular rear tank to that new side tank, I'll find that the new unit is shorted out.... BOOM!
JC Whitney phoned me and I've been in just about weekly phone contact with them ever since. They said that they were in contact with the manufactuer and were sending me another brand new Fuel Pump Hanger assembly, complete with a fuel filter and the check valve, and for me to send the first one back via regular return channels.
Okay, the new one arrived, packed much better, and it did have the fuel filter attached BUT... "No Check Valve". You would think that if the check valve is no longer needed, someone in authority would mention that fact to me to ease my mind but no matter. I shipped back the first unit as instructed. This second new one I am going to install in the new tank, install the tank in my truck, put 10 gallons in it, then drive around to see what happens.
My luck... as soon as I switch from the regular rear tank to that new side tank, I'll find that the new unit is shorted out.... BOOM!
#16
Joe,
I want to complement you on your persistence and patience.
Anybody else would have switched tanks a long time ago and the BOOM would have had a lot of help probably with a book of matches.
Lets hope it works the way you want it to work. Glad you still have your sense of humor !!
I want to complement you on your persistence and patience.
Anybody else would have switched tanks a long time ago and the BOOM would have had a lot of help probably with a book of matches.
Lets hope it works the way you want it to work. Glad you still have your sense of humor !!
#17
Well, I had the tank put together on a folding table in my garage, awaiting placement in the vehicle but a variety of chores jumped in front of it. Quick forward to August 13th.
Fairly early start this Tuesday morning... the truck backed up on ramps, got my roller dolly out and other rugs etc to lay on and a floor jack with a wood platform to raise the tank. Everything went as it should excepting a problem installing the original fill hoses. Those things are non flexible when old but eventually the tank was installed and there were no leaks.
Put in ten gallons of gasoline. The gauge sender works fine and apparently the internal fuel pump and the tank selector unit both functioned as they should. Originally I had been running on the rear tank only. Flipping the electric tank selector... I found myself drawing fuel from the new side tank. (Yea!)
Making various short trips to places in the area for a couple days, the fuel gauge dropped a slight bit as it should have. Bottom line is that all appears well and my decision to install the tank without that check valve was okay (as if I had a choice).
I am a happy camper once again. Now to drop the rear tank to replace the broken brass float so as to have the fuel gauge working with both tanks.
Fairly early start this Tuesday morning... the truck backed up on ramps, got my roller dolly out and other rugs etc to lay on and a floor jack with a wood platform to raise the tank. Everything went as it should excepting a problem installing the original fill hoses. Those things are non flexible when old but eventually the tank was installed and there were no leaks.
Put in ten gallons of gasoline. The gauge sender works fine and apparently the internal fuel pump and the tank selector unit both functioned as they should. Originally I had been running on the rear tank only. Flipping the electric tank selector... I found myself drawing fuel from the new side tank. (Yea!)
Making various short trips to places in the area for a couple days, the fuel gauge dropped a slight bit as it should have. Bottom line is that all appears well and my decision to install the tank without that check valve was okay (as if I had a choice).
I am a happy camper once again. Now to drop the rear tank to replace the broken brass float so as to have the fuel gauge working with both tanks.
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