Need Throttle Position Sensor expertise
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Need Throttle Position Sensor expertise
I have a 2009 E350 12 passenger van with the 5.4 engine. I've had intermittent TPS issues over the years and even had the entire throttle body replaced about 4 years ago.
The problem now is that the engine will suddenly go into limp mode, with the "wrench" light coming on. The code says a TPS issue. For a couple of years, I could disconnect the negative battery terminal and discharge the system, thus doing a "reset" on the computer and that would fix the problem, sometimes for over a year without having a single issue. But now the reset no longer works and the van goes into limp mode as soon as it starts to re-calibrate idle speed. Last night we got stranded on a lonely road, an hour from home, in a thunderstorm. Fun.
My question is, before I replace a TPS, which is more likely to be the culprit, the TPS on the throttle body or the one on the accelerator pedal?
Both are expensive, even for DIY, so I would hate to guess wrong.
Thanks for any help on this.
The problem now is that the engine will suddenly go into limp mode, with the "wrench" light coming on. The code says a TPS issue. For a couple of years, I could disconnect the negative battery terminal and discharge the system, thus doing a "reset" on the computer and that would fix the problem, sometimes for over a year without having a single issue. But now the reset no longer works and the van goes into limp mode as soon as it starts to re-calibrate idle speed. Last night we got stranded on a lonely road, an hour from home, in a thunderstorm. Fun.
My question is, before I replace a TPS, which is more likely to be the culprit, the TPS on the throttle body or the one on the accelerator pedal?
Both are expensive, even for DIY, so I would hate to guess wrong.
Thanks for any help on this.
#3
Bill,
My original code was a P2111, Throttle Actuator Control System - Stuck Open.
I replaced the TPS and no change. I then replaced the throttle body with a used one and again, no change.
I then replaced the accelerator pedal and sensor with a used one and no change still.
So finally I took it to the Ford dealership since I figured that they would be able to at least diagnose what the true problem was and then I could decide what to do about it.
Turns out I had two places where the wiring harness had become old and brittle and the voltage going to the throttle body TPS and/or actuator motor was too low.
Ford replaced a couple of wiring harness "pigtails" and charged me a $135 electrical tracing fee and $150 repair fee including parts and labor. Grand total was right at $300.00.
I made a video about it here:
Hope this helps.
My original code was a P2111, Throttle Actuator Control System - Stuck Open.
I replaced the TPS and no change. I then replaced the throttle body with a used one and again, no change.
I then replaced the accelerator pedal and sensor with a used one and no change still.
So finally I took it to the Ford dealership since I figured that they would be able to at least diagnose what the true problem was and then I could decide what to do about it.
Turns out I had two places where the wiring harness had become old and brittle and the voltage going to the throttle body TPS and/or actuator motor was too low.
Ford replaced a couple of wiring harness "pigtails" and charged me a $135 electrical tracing fee and $150 repair fee including parts and labor. Grand total was right at $300.00.
I made a video about it here:
Last edited by KAP; 08-20-2017 at 07:07 PM.
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